With “Dummy Thick,” BamsterG has created a driving, insistent hip-hop ode to big, full-bodied, voluptuous women — juicy thick. 

And, along with that, a celebration of being a player. 

“Man, ‘Dummy Thick’ is the new summer anthem,” said BamsterG. “This is for all the ladies who feel good about their bodies, how their sculpture is built and their big ba-donka-donks.” 

Long hair, long nails
Wearing red bottoms too
Tatted up, white toes, and she make her revenue

Ow
Dummy thick
Oooo she dummy thick

“Like I always tell everybody,” he said, “if they got a big one, or if they only feel like they got a big one, they feel good about themselves.”

But he points out, the song is also about the musician (himself), celebrating playerhood.

I am not your average Joe
I ain’t basic
This is not your average car

“It’s about being a player,” he said. “Not like playing women, but talking about being a player, being smooth, man, real cool, calm, cordial and having a good time with the ladies.”

BamsterG — Stazion Goodlow—has been making music seriously since he was 15, when he released his first EP, Money On My Mind. Now 21, his music has grown as his ambition has evolved.

His first song, from that first EP, was “Depression Is An Affection.”

“I was going fast, melodic, but kind of sad, you know? And then as I kept dropping more music, I kind of grew out of just making sad music. I started making up tempo, happy music.”

The celebration of “Dummy Thick” is part of the growth into happier music. That first song came at a time when he was going through some not-so-good stuff. 

“I’ve experienced good and bad, real, adult-life things, so, that’s why now I know to make better music. What I mean by ‘better’ is, like, happier music, because being sad is not good. It’s not. It can do bad things to you.” 

He wants for himself to be as “peaceful and positive as possible.” He makes music with the goal of uplifting people, and he wants to explore about every kind of music — rap, underground rap, Afrobeat, country, R&B, Spanish, Italian, “whatever God puts in front of me.” 

“I want to go everywhere with it, man. I love to touch base with any and every avenue. I will take my chances to be featured in another country.” 

He attended the Chattanooga School for the Arts and Sciences, where he played sports — football, basketball and track and won a county wrestling championship in middle school — and was an academic champion, participating in robotics competitions. He is, as the song says, not an average Joe.

He also participated in theater, and another part of his ambition is movies and television.

“‘Dummy Thick’ is a ratchet anthem, more for women who like to twerk at the stop signs, and red lights, also who like going to the clubs and getting kind of crazy.” 

Women, as men, he acknowledged, can be players, too.

Next for him is a song called “Walk In,” which he says has a smooth, up-tempo beat, “real playa,” he said, meaning walking into a building with an aura that commands respect.

“What I mean by ‘aura’ is like how you can walk into a building, and everybody is like, ‘Whoa! Who is this guy?!’”
It is, at the same time, what he calls a “workout, grinding” song.

Right now, he wants “Dummy Thick,” the track and the video, to “go everywhere, state to state, country to country.”

“Man, my boy Mercy cooked that beat up so hard! At the first sound, everybody is like, ‘Whoa! What’s going to happen?’ and then boom! we come in on the 808s and the background noises and the claps.”

In the video, he said, the girls twerked to the rhythm of the claps.

“I want everybody to hear this. Like I said, up-tempo, rachet, but a summer anthem, classic. This is going to be played 10 years from now. And the video is awesome! Go watch the video.”

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M.O.T.H.E.R. – the new collaborative band helmed by Robbie Furze of The Big Pink and currently featuring Jamie T and Jamie Hince of The Kills – have given their first proper interview, talking to NME about the emotional origins of the project, their aim to be “the guitar version of N.E.R.D.”, and their hit-list of future collaborators.

Revealing the new project at the end of May alongside the blistering anthemics of debut single ‘My Love’, Furze shared that the seeds of M.O.T.H.E.R. had come from losing his own parent after a prolonged illness. “My mum got sick about five years ago and was ill for about four years before she died,” he told NME.

“In that period I had a daughter, which was this real juxtaposition of death and birth. My mates – Jamie T and Jamie Hince – came together for me, and then sadly Jamie [Hince] lost his dad too,” Furze went on, sitting in a West London pub alongside Hince.

Hince continued: “I lost my dad four days after Robbie [lost his mum], and it felt like, if ever there was a calling, it was that. But it didn’t all come out of that doom and gloom. I hate mentioning COVID but everyone had so much time on their hands and there was this open creativity back then. I was working on music with Jamie T, sending each other stuff, and the idea for the three of us to do something together came out of that. It felt nice, like we were buying into this camaraderie, and this gang.”

The three musicians have previous credits together, with the two Jamies also writing on The Big Pink’s most recent album, 2022’s ‘The Love That’s Ours’. Fully collaborating on M.O.T.H.E.R., Furze joked, was like “the clash of three egos”. “Everyone wants to work with each other because you like what each other does, and so it’s not quite imposter syndrome but you have to live up to [that idea] and jump in and be a character,” Hince continued. “You can’t be too humble about it.”

Recording between Hince’s studio in LA and Furze’s studio in London’s Bethnal Green, the current trio have also dropped their self-titled debut EP featuring three further tracks: ‘Real Human’, ‘Traitor’, and ‘Surrender’. The ethos of the band, meanwhile, is for the line-up to shift with each release, bringing in familiar faces from other groups and working with whoever might be available at the time.

“We did a little bit [of recording] with Jenny [Lee Lindberg, bassist] from Warpaint who I love; I really want to get something solid down with her,” revealed Hince, while Furze suggested that names including Zach Hill of industrial hip-hop trio Death Grips, and electronic producer Skream have all been in the mix for future iterations of the band.

“We ran into Zach and he seemed into it but then he started ghosting me,” he noted. “Whether or not he decides to text me back, it would be wonderful to have that kind of thing. Jamie Hince, Skream, Rhys Webb from The Horrors [who played on their recent radio session], and Zach – if I saw that, I’d wanna hear what that nonsense sounds like!”

Check out the rest of the interview with Furze and Hince below, as they discuss their endearing bromance, their admiration for Jamie T, and why the band are unlikely to ever make an album.

NME: Hello Robbie and Jamie! You must have been kicking about at a lot of ‘00s parties, how far does your friendship go back?

Robbie Furze: “Me and Jamie T started becoming friends on the circuit of festivals when the first Big Pink record came out in 2009. Then me and Jamie Hince met at Corona Capital in Mexico in 2012.”

Jamie Hince: “He had a reputation – I think we all had reputations… I remember his wife giving me these dried insect snacks and I didn’t eat them because I thought he might have laced them with something…”

Furze: “Every band playing Corona Capital was staying in this massive hotel, so it was just chaos.”

Hince: “It was at the height of ego. Everyone had bodyguards. Bands were trying to outdo other bands. Like, The Black Keys – you’re two guys from Ohio, you don’t need armed bodyguards…”

The Big Pink
Robbie Furze with The Big Pink, 2022. Credit: Ashley Rommelrath.

Where does Jamie T fit into all this?

Hince: “Our orbits crossed quite a bit. I remember seeing him at some tiny little pub when he was probably about 19, and I love how it’s come full circle. My heart sinks a little bit when I see Jamie T working because I know I’m nowhere near [as good as] that. I have to chip away at things and stand back and then dive in again to get the feeling, whereas he’s just got the feeling from the start.”

Furze: “He’s pretty incredible. The song ‘Traitor’ on the EP was supposed to be for my vocal, and he was almost getting pissed off that we couldn’t get the verses right. He was just like, ‘I’ll sort it out’, goes up to the mic, does one take and it’s done. See you later. He’s that kind of guy.”

Do you have to leave your ego at the door in those situations?

Hince: “I did this amazing beat for ‘Traitor’ that I loved, and I sent it to Jamie T and got back a text saying: ‘One pound fish’. Fuck! I mean talk about leaving your ego at the door… I know what he was saying, he thought it was a bit ‘cor blimey’ waltz. But some of the shit he ends up doing, it’s totally ‘cor blimey one pound fish’!”

Furze: “But whatever works for the track works, and everyone has to be happy with it. You push each other without really knowing it.”

How did you envision the project?

Hince: “These things just come together. It sounds cheesy, but I wanted it to be the guitar version of N.E.R.D. – a production team of people that love each other.”

Furze: “We’ve got songs in the pipeline with other artists already, and it makes it like an N.E.R.D. or Unkle or Massive Attack thing. Being collaborative makes me more excited.”

Hince: “It feels like that time has gone where albums really last. Records seem to come and go quite quickly now. So I’ve shifted my enthusiasm because I think the attention span has gone. You spend so much time making records and so little time getting any reward.”

Furze: “I’d like to do standalone singles, or another EP of four or five tracks as a batch. I wouldn’t wanna go further than that.”

None of your individual bands and projects sound that alike – where do you think your tastes align?

Hince: “There’s something unspoken that we all seem to agree on which is this epic-ness. There’s a line in one of the songs that talks about ‘the last of the hooligans‘ and that seemed to be the feeling behind it all. If there’s a similarity with what everyone wanted, it was maybe just being a bit romantic and epic.”

Jamie Hince and Alison Mosshart of the band The Kills perform
Jamie Hince and Alison Mosshart of the band The Kills perform live. CREDIT: Harmony Gerber/Getty Images

Why do you think you were drawn to that?

Hince: “I don’t know, maybe we’re just lonely men?”

Furze: “Beaten down but being pulled up by hope…”

Hince: “We’ve all been bashing around, making all this noise and spending so much time doing it; I think it gives you that feeling. There’s something tiny and irrelevant about what you do but something life and death about what you do too, and I think the cocktail of that makes it… well, the last of the hooligans.”

Tell us a bit about ‘My Love’ – the first proper single.

Furze: “It’s one of the most basic songs. It’s a love song about hope, but it just has such an incredible energy to it with its simplicity. I’m not a massive Beatles fan but it has this relatable energy [like their early music]. ‘I wanna hold your hand’ – you don’t get more basic than that, in a great way. I think simplicity is power. Sometimes less is more, and if you mean it you can get away with it.”

Are there going to be live shows?

Furze: “Definitely. We’re playing a bit of catch up because we didn’t think ‘My Love’ would get the reaction it has, but we’re desperate to get out and do gigs.”

Hince: “In the spirit of the collaborative project, I’m really liking the idea of having different people in different countries playing with us; having a different vibe each time.”

Furze: “It would be really exciting to see different characters that you know from different bands. For the radio session [with Steve Lamacq on BBC 6 Music] we had Rhys Webb from The Horrors on bass, and I love that idea.”

Jamie T performing at Glastonbury 2022, photo by Eva Pentel
Jamie T performing at Glastonbury 2022. Credit: Eva Pentel for NME

You’re obviously very close – what are your favourite memories of this charming bromance?

Furze: “Jamie’s probably my best friend in the world and we’ve been through a lot together. In 2015 we both uprooted and went out to LA together, I went out there for about five years and he stayed, so we were pretty inseparable. It got to a point where it was breakfast, lunch and dinner together.”

Hince: “We just became one person. People would confuse us even though we don’t look the same. He had an ex-girlfriend who he went to say hello to and she said, ‘Hello Jamie’. We just started having the same vibe. The same embarrassing energy. We’ve chilled out a bit recently but when I was in LA and Robbie was in London we’d speak to each other for four hours a day. I was getting complaints from his wife.”

The ‘M.O.T.H.E.R. EP’ is out now.

The Big Pink returned with their third studio album, ‘The Love That’s Ours’, in 2022. It marked their first full-length effort in over 10 years. T and Hince worked on that LP, too, co-writing the single ‘Love Spins On Its Axis’.

The Kills released their sixth and latest record, ‘God Games’, in 2023.

Jamie T, meanwhile, made a comeback with ‘The Theory Of Whatever’ the previous year. He recently joined forces with Fred Again.. on the track ‘Lights Burn Dimmer’, and performed with The Maccabees at their big London reunion gig last summer.

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